This ends abruptly!  Ever wanted to be a fly on the wall during a HARD conversation?! Well today is your lucky day.  We are talking all about how we are navigating custody for Penny. After we recorded this episode we decided it warranted two episodes! So be prepared for some hard conversations, as well as an abrupt ending and what turns into some high level emotions next week… Will Steve and I come to blows? Will Matt have to break us up? It was Matt’s idea to record about this so I blame him…  Are you ready to figure out how to move forward after a Crisis in your Relationship?! Claim your spot at the FREE workshop “Figure Out The ‘What NOW?!’ After Betrayal To Be BOLDly YOU!” happening February 22nd. This won’t be offered again until next year! theboldlogic.com/whatnowworkshopReady for support NOW whether you are going through Crisis in your relationship or had a partner come out? Get on a FREE call with Jessica today. https://calendly.com/jessicawiththeboldlogic/15min TWO SPOTS LEFT! Had a partner come out? Get the support you need TODAY by joining the Unicorn Coaching Group… Prices will be going up SOON, claim your spot before they do.  https://theboldlogic.com/unicorncoaching  Have a question or topic you want us to cover on the Podcast?! Drop It Here and we will be sure to get to it asap!-------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

Custody Battle

Things are shifting ever so slightly around here. You have probably heard me allude to it but today I am tackling it head on.  I have heard from women over and over again, "Jessica, I am feeling all the same things you are describing but I didn't have a partner come out." Why is that? Is that weird? I am here to answer all your questions about why you are feeling all the same things. Let’s dive into how your experience may feel similar, even though it is different.  FREE WORKBOOK! “Trust Your Gut After Betrayal” theboldlogic.com/freeworkbook Are you a Unicorn? Do you have questions about Unicorn coaching?  Get a FREE 15 minute clarity call to get the support you need.  https://calendly.com/jessicawiththeboldlogic/15minOR if you know you want to join the Unicorn Group NOW you can join us by claiming your spot here. https://theboldlogic.com/unicorncoaching  Have a question or topic you want us to cover?! Drop It Here and we will be use to get to it asap! -------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

Similar But Different

Things change quickly and often when you have shared custody. This may be hard to believe but there are things that have happened in our lives’ that we have not shared with you. But we recognize, and hope you recognize, that there is a time and place for sharing. As we sat down to reflect on the things we have learned over the past year and what we want to take with us, so things came up that we have not shared yet. A LOT has changed in our families over the past year that we have kept on the DL. Today we share a few of those things while still protecting the privacy of those that are involved. Also, Do you like Applebees? Yes or No? Ready for a moment of mental self care with some BOLD Affirmation Coloring Pages?! Get yours for FREE! theboldlogic.com/colorforfreeReady to feel less alone, gain clarity and find joy again after a partner comes out whether you stay together or not? We added an additional time for group coaching because there have been so many people reaching out to join. You can email Jessica with any questions (Jessica@theboldlogic.com) or if you are ready to join us now head to theboldlogic.com/unicorncoaching and claim your spot before they are gone.   Have a Question or topic you want us to cover on the podcast? Fill out this SUPER Short form and we will answer it/cover it next time we record. https://airtable.com/shrjh474FXJz6bht5-------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

Yummo!

It only took us 11 Years to get here...  This episode is sharing what happened this holiday in our little family. I kept thinking how did we get here?!  What are we doing?! And then reminding myself that this is what living into your values instead of the "shoulds" looks and feels like. We hope that sharing will help you be ready to do the same.  Ready to figure out "What NOW?!" after betrayal? Pick up the FREE Workbook to get you started. theboldlogic.com/freeworkbook. Had a parnter come out and looking for support from other women who get it?!  Join the Unicorn heard to get the support you need whether you are staying with your partner or separating.  There are limited spots open.  Is one of them calling for you?!  Claim your spot before they are gone here👉 theboldlogic.com/unicorncoaching  Have a question or topic you want us to cover?!  Drop them here https://airtable.com/shrjh474FXJz6bht5 and we will be sure to get to it the next time we record.  -------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

Trust Your Gut

What does it look like when you add a third “Dad” to your child’s life? We can’t say how it goes for everyone but in this episode, we share what it has been like for us and our daughter. Jalen is back to share how it has been joining our family. What the move to Boise was like. And how many plants Steve and Jalen own. They are definitely plant dads.Want to be a safe place for your friends and family who come out? Pick up the FREE guide, “Six Ways To Be A Better Ally”. https://theboldlogic.com/loveboldlyReady to feel less alone after having a partner come out? There is one spot left in The Unicorn Coaching Group. Where you will feel seen, loved, less alone, and supported along the way. These spots don’t open up often, claim the last spot now! https://theboldlogic.com/unicorncoaching -------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

He's Back!

Joining us today may be the most anticipated guest EVER in the history of podcasting… Okay, maybe just in the history of the Husband in Law Podcast. Any guesses?! How did you get that right?! Maybe because we gave it away in the last episode. Jalen, Steve’s boyfriend, is here with us today. And you will see why he fits into our little family so perfectly.  He opens up about IT ALL! By the end of this episode, you will get to know him and love him just like we do (well, maybe not quite how Steve loves him). Did Jessica cry during the episode? Yes. Did she cry numerous times? Also, yes. Are you surprised? Yeah, we aren’t, either.  Ready to be the ally that your family and friends need?  Pick up the FREE guide, “Six Ways To Be A Better Ally.”  https://theboldlogic.com/loveboldlyHas a partner come out? Ready to move through the heavy, emotional fog that comes with that?  Claim a spot in The Unicorn Coaching Group, and we will help you feel seen, loved, less alone, and supported along the way. Due to the overwhelming response to spots being open, Jessica opened up another group, but spots are going fast! https://theboldlogic.com/unicorncoaching-------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

Good Day

You had questions and we have answers… Kind of.  Haha! Okay we do answer your questions in this episode. Everything from finding a new community after coming out, to how pissed did Jessica and Steve get at each other during the “in between phases” of their relationship, to how did Steve and Jalen meet.  BUT the thing we want you to know most is that we share what has worked for us. And while some of the same things might work for you, what is most important is that you do what feels right for you. Don’t be scared to get creative! Figure out what it is YOU need. As promised here are the links to the “Dating Diaries” Episodes.  They are raw and very real. Episode 33: https://husband-in-law.simplecast.com/episodes/33-dating-diaries-part-1-dgBdm0UOAnd Episode 34: https://husband-in-law.simplecast.com/episodes/34-dating-diaries-part-2-GJt2Y6WRIf you have a question for us please drop it in a review, DM Jessica on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/thejessicafrew/) or email jessica@theboldlogic.comThere are only 2 spots available! If you are wanting to claim a seat in one of Jessica’s Coaching Groups, you can do that here. https://theboldlogic.com/unicorncoaching You never know when one of these spots will be available so grab yours now!-------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

So Many Questions...

This episode is a quick reminder as to why gratitude is so dang important AND some insight as to what gratitude can really do for you in your life.  Enjoy!   Feeling the pressure of the holidays? Ready for more joy and less stress during the holiday season while  feeling connected to yourself and others?!  Register for the FREE Holiday Boundaries Class to get just that starting TODAY! There will be a replay because I know the holiday season gets crazy! BUT you will only have access to that if you are registered. Register HERE!    -------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

You Haven't Heard This Before

It's the most wonderful time of the year... except when it isn't. The holidays can be joyful or straight up stressful. More often than not they are a combination of both.  This holiday season set yourself up the best you can with some Holiday Boundaries.  LAST CHANCE! Gnomies are rolling out fast! Grab yours while you can.  Head to theboldlogicshop.comto get yours before they are gone.  (This may be the last year we offer these...  It will for sure be the last year Jessica is hand making them. So if you want a Gnomie that is made with extra love, pick yours up now!)P.S. And don't worry, we know breakups are hard, so we took care of "Breaking Up" with the Freaking Elf for you.  We will do your dirty work... Shop with a Cop Episode linked here 👉🏼 https://husband-in-law.simplecast.com/episodes/shop-with-a-cop-oVaJ47kT-------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

Happy Boundaries!

Have you see the "Mormon No More" documentary on Hulu?  Whether you have or haven't won't make a difference as you listen to today's episode where the three of us sit down to share our own unique perspectives on it. Don't miss the names/titles Matt felt would have been more fitting. Do you think any of us will see eye to eye on it?! 😅 Want a simple way to create holiday magic without the elf and even as your kids are growing up? Get on the Waitlist to claim a Gnomie as soon as they are available.  They are only for sale for a week and there are limited quantities available because we make them all by hand with love from our family to yours! Head to theboldlogic.com/gnome to be the first to know when they go on sale. P.S. . And don't worry, we know breakups are hard, so we took care of "Breaking Up" with the Freaking Elf for you.  We will do your dirty work...-------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

Straight No More

Steve always tells me he doesn't want to live past 60. 😅 Which quite honestly pisses me off BUT he carries very strong feelings about "getting older" and until we recorded this episode I didn't realize that Matt has very strong feelings as about it as well. You can hear what Matt has to say by listening in now.  What are your thoughts about getting older? I didn't say this on a the podcast but I feel like it is a daily gift I am given and I am here for it. 🙌🏻 I am glad you are here today as well.💜  Keep growing my friend, in all the ways.   Ready to kick the "Elf" to the curb? Are you tired of the added stress?  Want a simple way to create holiday magic without the elf and even as your kids are growing up? Get on the Waitlist to claim a Gnomie as soon as they are available.  They are only for sale for a week and there are limited quantity available. And don't worry, we know breakups are hard, so we took care of "Breaking Up" with the Freaking Elf for you.  We will do your dirty work... head to theboldlogic.com/gnome to be the first to know when they go on sale. -------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

This week we are talking about the process of mourning a relationship. It can look many different ways and can hit us at the most random times.  We share how it looked for Steve and me to mourn our relationship, and how it was for Matt to mourn his relationship with Ann.  Steve also shares about something he is currently mourning and then Matt compares it to a parking lot...  Which leads to the question...  is there a parking spot that you are leaving open for someone who maybe doesn't deserve that space any more?  The mourning process can be hard.  It is painful but it is an important part of healing.  Sending so much love to you... and I mean that. -------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

I'd Mourn That

Was it embarrassment? Or was it a catalyst for change?  Maybe it was both…  Today we are talking about the moments that change us.  Sometimes they come at unexpected times and in unexpected places…  Have you ever had one? Share it with us on Instagram or email jessica@theboldlogic.com.Today is the day!  If you have had a partner come out don’t miss out on the LAST FREE workshop of the year that is made specifically for YOU. You are not alone. Whether you decide to stay together or separate, you can find peace and happiness again while leaving other people's opinions behind as you move forward and I am here with a whole herd of Unicorns to help you along the way. Join us by heading to https://theboldlogic.com/freeworkshop-------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

Fell On My Face

Someone is missing from this episode but YOU will not want to miss out on these insights into the ABCs of emotional cleaning. Are you an emotional cleaner? (This is not what you think it is...) And I can't wait to hear your insights into what emotional cleaning looks like for you.Also!  If you have a question for us or a topic you would like us to cover on the pod, please respond to this email with your question. The three of us will be recording in the next couple of days and we would love to know what you want to hear about. Email Jessica@theboldlogic.com or send us a message on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/husband_in_law/)! Be BOLD my Friend! Have you had a partner come out?!  Then don't miss out on the LAST FREE workshop of the year that is made specifically for YOU.  You are not alone. Whether you decide to stay together or separate, you can find peace and happiness again. You can leave other people's opinions behind as you move forward and I am here with a whole herd of Unicorns to help you along the way. Join us by heading to https://theboldlogic.com/freeworkshop! -------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

The ABCs of Emotional Cleaning

We're back! This week we have a special treat for you. It is a live Q&A where we answer some of your most pressing questions. Have a question of your own? Don't hesitate to reach out to us on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/husband_in_law/) or send us an email jessica@theboldlogic.com and we will be sure to get it answered on an upcoming episode.Are you a woman who has had a partner come out? Then this is for you. https://theboldlogic.com/freeworkshopWant to be the first to know when registrations opens for the next BOLDly You Retreat?  Get on the wait list here. https://theboldlogic.com/retreatwaitlistConnect with the Husband In Law crew: https://theboldlogic.com/boldetin-------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

We Have an Answer for That

In this episode, Jessica, and Steve will talk about their first year of marriage, having a blast in college. Jessica will then share the story of how she came upon Steve’s gay porn on the computer while he was away at work.Steve hadn’t yet come to terms with the fact that he was gay, and he was devastated by Jessica’s discovery. They will share all that transpired after that and it’s going to be an interesting story, so don’t miss it.Live Event Invite List!  Tickets will be for sale for one day only and by invite only, get on the list!  http://theboldlogic.com/liveeventRetreat registration will be closing August 31st.  Claim your spot now!  http://theboldlogic.com/retreatGet your FREE Clarity Call with Jessica!  These will only be offered this summer AND there are only four spots open per week... sign up for yours today! https://theboldlogic.com/freecall-------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

Denial At It's Best [Replay]

In this episode, Matt, Jessica, and Steve will talk about the Boise Gay Pride Festival and what their experiences were. Steve will dive into being deeply involved in organizing the different pride festivals that have been held in the past and all the challenges they go through.The three of them, with Steve’s guidance, will then demystify the societal misconceptions about so much relating to the LGBTQ Plus community, and talk about how amazing gay pride events really are.Live Event Tickets! http://theboldlogic.com/liveeventRetreat registration is open! There are just a few seats left! Claim your ticket at   http://theboldlogic.com/retreatGet your FREE Clarity Call with Jessica!  These will only be offered this summer AND there are only four spots open per week... sign up for yours today! https://theboldlogic.com/freecall-------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

Gay Pride [Replay]

In this episode, Stephanie May (we mentioned her in the last episode. Remember?) comes on to talk about how she introduced Steve and Jessica to each other. Steph will ask Steve and Jessica a range of questions just to get a better understanding of what really happened that led to their eventual divorce.It’s gonna be a hilarious one. You won’t wanna miss it.Retreat registration is open! Payment option available until July 25th! Claim your ticket at   http:/theboldlogic.com/retreatGet your FREE Clarity Call with Jessica!  These will only be offered this summer AND there are only four spots open per week... sign up for yours today! https://theboldlogic.com/freecall-------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

Sliquid Nitrogen? [Replay]

So, how did Steve and Jessica even meet in the first place?!In this episode, Steve and Jessica will dive into how they met and how their relationship developed - ultimately leading to their marriage. Through deliberate effort by Steve (he was admittedly intrigued by Jessica), they met back in college, and the story of how they got to the point where they got married and honeymooned in Victor, Idaho, is both funny and amazing, so you won’t wanna miss it.Curious about the cat shoes?! You'll need to listen in! 😂Retreat tickets will be available next week! Get your FREE Clarity Call with Jessica!  These will only be offered this summer AND there are only four spots open per week... sign up for yours today! https://theboldlogic.com/freecall-------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

Cat Shoes And A Cake Fight [Replay]

Getting to know you, Getting to know all about you... 🎶🎵🎶  Where did this crazy story begin and who the heck are Jessica, Matt, and Steve?  Great question and today you are going to get to hear how this all began so many many many years ago, in a land far far away.  Or something like that...Show that you are an ally while educating yourself and those in your home... And without flying a rainbow flag, unless you want to!  Pick on the Love BOLDly Coloring Book.  Available during Pride month only!  Stock up now. These also make a perfect gift for your queer friends and family! Let's spread some love! https://theboldlogic.com/loveboldlyGet your FREE Clarity Call with Jessica!  These will only be offered this summer AND there are only four spots open per week... sign up for yours today! https://theboldlogic.com/freecall-------Be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook!--You can find the podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts

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