In this episode, Payton discusses the tragic kidnapping of Sidney Reso and how his kidnappers led police on a chase to find Sidney before it's too late.
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Sources:
“Mystery, Millions and Murder in North Jersey: The Tragic Kidnapping of Exxon’s Sidney Reso” by John E. O’Rourke
History.com - https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/exxon-executive-is-murdered
NY Daily News - https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ransom-bad-exxon-oil-executive-sidney-reso-killed-kidnap-arthur-irene-seale-article-1.448931
LA Times - https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1992-06-29-mn-919-story.html
The Federalist - https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/16/the-terrifying-true-story-behind-one-of-the-fbis-biggest-kidnapping-cases/
The New York Times - https://www.nytimes.com/1992/07/01/nyregion/twisted-tale-of-a-kidnapping-and-of-dreams-gone-wrong.html, https://archive.nytimes.com/query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage-9F0CE1DA143DF93BA15755C0A964958260.html
FBIStudies.com - https://fbistudies.com/2018/09/11/sydney-reso-kidnapping/
NJ.com - https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/07/you-will-die-in-captivity-they-told-notorious-exxon-kidnapper-at-risk-of-covid-hes-asking-to-get-out.html
Seattle Times - https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=19920522&slug=1493196
Texas Obituary Project - https://www.texasobituaryproject.org/040387reso.html
Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Seale
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183. The Ransom Gone Wrong

On this episode, Payton discusses the kidnapping case of Amber Hagerman, and how a tragedy created the Amber Alert System that has saved countless children.
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AllThatsInteresting.com - https://allthatsinteresting.com/amber-hagerman

TheCrimeWire.com - https://thecrimewire.com/true-crime/9-year-old-Amber-Hagerman-was-murdered-27-years-ago-Are-police-closer-to-catching-her-killer

MissingKids.org - https://www.missingkids.org/blog/2021/still-searching-for-ambers-killer

Dallas News - https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2021/01/13/this-case-will-get-solved-arlington-police-hope-dna-evidence-in-amber-hagermans-case-will-lead-to-answers/

CBS News - https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/remembering-amber-hagerman-27-years-later/

Refinery 29 - https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2017/05/154647/amber-alert-first-child-rescued-heading-to-college#:~:text=Rae%2DLeigh%20Bradbury%20was%20only,was%20rescued%20two%20days%20later.

FindLaw.com - https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-charges/amber-alerts.html#:~:text=Bush%20signed%20into%20law%20the,has%20an%20AMBER%20Alert%20system

Daily Mail - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11651117/Documentary-reveals-story-nine-year-old-girl-murder-inspired-Amber-Alert-system.html

Peacock’s “Amber: The Girl Behind the Alert” - https://www.peacocktv.com/watch/playback/vod/GMO_00000000208139_02_HDSDR/ae3a0a68-260b-3cac-925e-a762722a085f

Kiro 7 News - https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/police-release-new-photos-seek-new-info-unsolved-1996-murder-amber-hagerman/DYCH62JDMVCOZFBRS265GCKCJU/

Child Crime Prevention and Safety Center - https://childsafety.losangelescriminallawyer.pro/non-family-abduction.html#:~:text=Crime%20statistics%20have%20shown%20that,kidnappings%20are%20committed%20by%20strangers.

NBC Dallas Fort Worth - https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/national-international/cold-case-that-inspired-amber-alerts-still-unsolved-detectives-still-hope-for-break-in-the-case/2527792/

“Cold Cases: A True Crime Collection” by Cheyna Roth
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182. The Kidnapping Behind The Amber Alert

For fifteen years you could call a private number in Manhattan and anonymously apologize for anything. It was called The Apology Line. This is the story of the phone line and the man at the other end who became consumed by his own creation. He was known as “Mr. Apology.”
 
As thousands of callers flooded the line, confessing to everything from shoplifting to adultery, drug dealing, to murder, Mr. Apology realized he couldn’t just listen. He had to do something, even if it meant risking everything.
 
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Listen Now: The Apology Line

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MWMH Surprise In Person Live Show

On this episode, Payton discusses the female serial killer Joanne Dennehy and how she manipulated men in order to go on a knife rampage. 
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Love of Blood: The True Story of Notorious Serial Killer Joanne Dennehy by Christopher Berry-Dee

AllThatsInteresting.com - https://allthatsinteresting.com/joanna-dennehy

Cambridge News - https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/joanna-dennehy-peterborough-ditch-murders-20653662

The BBC - https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-25669206

Ranker.com -
https://www.ranker.com/list/joanna-dennehy-peterborough-ditch/cat-mcauliffe

Medium.com - https://the-citizen.medium.com/she-stabbed-men-to-death-for-sadistic-blood-lust-the-joanna-dennehys-story-c7eb229ab236#:~:text=To%20the%20prison%20psychiatrist%2C%20Joanna,it%2C%20it%20became%20addictive%E2%80%9D.

ITV - https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/story/2014-10-31/joanna-dennehy-accomplice-gary-stretch-sentence-appeal-rejected/#:~:text=Accomplices%20of%20serial%20killer%20jailed&text=Gary%20Stretch%2C%20formerly%20known%20as,a%20minimum%20of%2019%20years

Daily Star - https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/evil-serial-killer-joanna-dennehy-26027862

VocalMedia.com- https://vocal.media/criminal/the-most-dangerous-woman-in-the-uk-prison-system

Metro.co.uk -https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/19/serial-killer-joanna-dennehy-still-trying-snare-men-cell-9263931/

Daily Mail - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6935507/Serial-killer-Joanna-Dennehy-drawing-men-prison-cell.html
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181. The Peterborough Ditch Murders

On this episode, Payton discusses the Carol Thompson case, and how someone hiding in her basement ended her life. Who did it and why? Who masterminded this brutal murder?

Sources:

“Dial M: The Murder of Carol Thompson” by William Swanson

The New York Times - https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/06/us/t-eugene-thompson-dies-at-88-crime-stunned-st-paul.html

CBS News - https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/cold-case-t-eugene-thompson/

Park Rapids Enterprise https://www.parkrapidsenterprise.com/news/the-vault/money-sex-and-power-the-1963-murder-of-carol-thompson-by-her-attorney-husband-shocked-the-twin-cities

Court Transcripts from Law.Justia.com - https://law.justia.com/cases/minnesota/supreme-court/1966/39343-1.html

MNOpedia.com - https://www.mnopedia.org/event/murder-carol-thompson

The Star Tribune - https://www.startribune.com/even-after-50-years-st-paul-wrestles-with-thompson-murder-for-hire/233885361/
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180. The Murder Mastermind

Payton and Garrett read listener submitted stories back to you.

Submit a Dear Daisy here:

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Dear Daisy, I Followed The Amber Alert Suspect!

On this episode, Payton and Garrett discuss the murder of Natalee Holloway and how a whole Island tried to cover it up.
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Episode Sources

“Loving Natalee: A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith” by Beth Holloway

“Aruba: The Tragic Untold Story of Natalee Holloway and Corruption in Paradise” by Dave Holloway and Larry Garrison 

“Cold Cases: A True Crime Collection” by Cheyna Roth

Oxygen’s “The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway” Docuseries - https://www.peacocktv.com/watch/playback/vod/GMO_00000000047913_01/971327dc-e966-3590-a494-3cc17b9b4524?paused=true

CNN.com- https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/12/us/natalee-holloway-case-timeline/index.html, https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/28/us/joran-van-der-sloot-trial-delayed-natalee-holloway/index.html

NYDailyNews.com - https://www.nydailynews.com/news/disappearance-natalee-holloway-gallery-1.2240424

ChillingCrimes.com - https://www.chillingcrimes.com/blogs/news/natalie-holloway

NBCNews.com - https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna8202144

DeseretNews.com - https://www.deseret.com/2005/6/14/19897490/2-ex-guards-released-in-aruba-case

CBSNews.com - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dutch-teens-dad-arrested-in-aruba/

InsideEdition.com - https://www.insideedition.com/770-casino-video-shows-joran-van-der-sloot-meeting-his-alleged-victim

HuffingtonPost.com - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sex-offender-natalee-holloway-tv-series_n_59e4fec7e4b0ca9f4839c786

Today.com - https://www.today.com/news/natalee-holloway-s-father-discovers-human-remains-aruba-t115151
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179. The Cover Up In Aruba - Natalee Holloway

On this episode, Payton and Garrett dive into the Nick Markowitz case, where a debt with a friend turned deadly. 
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“My Stolen Son: The Nick Markowitz Story” by Susan Markowitz and Jenna Glazer

LATimes.com - https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-dec-10-me-63811-story.html

AllThatsInteresting.com - https://allthatsinteresting.com/nicholas-markowitz

CBSNews.com - https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/mother-of-
murdered-teen-boy-outraged-that-alpha-dog-kidnapper-granted-parole/

MyStolenSon.com - https://www.mystolenson.com/

TheCrimeWire.com - https://thecrimewire.com/true-crime/The-Truth-Behind-
Alpha-Dog-Ben-Markowitz-Too-Soon-Taken

Murderpedia.org - https://murderpedia.org/male.H/h/hollywood-jesse.htm

TrueCrimeFanatic.com - https://truecrimefanatic.com/nicholas-markowitz-murder-wrong-place-wrong-time/

NBCNews.com - https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna35265265, https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna16636250

Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Nicholas_Markowitz
Alchetron.com - https://alchetron.com/Ryan-Hoyt
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178. The Stolen Brother - Nick Markowitz

On this episode, Payton and Garrett discuss the case of Dorothy Stratten and how her rising career was tragically cut short.
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The Killing of the Unicorn by Peter Bogdanovich

ABC’s 20/20 -
https://abc.com/shows/2020/episode-guide/2019-10/18-the-death-of-a-playmate-the-dorothy-stratten-story

The Village Voice - https://www.villagevoice.com/2020/02/14/death-of-a-playmate/

ABC News - https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/horrific-murder-playboy-playmate-verge-hollywood-stardom-flaw/story?id=66193166

Harpers Bazaar - https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/a12500777/dorothy-stratten-hugh-hefner-playboy-playmate/

Allthatsinteresting.com - https://allthatsinteresting.com/paul-snider

Globalnews.ca - https://globalnews.ca/news/7273712/dorothy-stratten-murder-40-years/

Popsugar.com - https://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/dorothy-stratten-death-49012299

Good Housekeeping - https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/a42125851/how-did-dorothy-stratten-die/

Denofgeek.com - https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/welcome-to-chippendales-grim-real-life-story-paul-snider-dorothy-stratten/ 
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177. Dorothy Stratten - The PlayBoy Bunny Murder

On this episode, Payton and Garrett discuss the case of Jennifer Levin and the media frenzy that surrounded the "Preppy Killer". 
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Episode Sources:
“Wasted: Inside the Robert Chambers- Jennifer Levin Murder” by Linda Wolfe

Vulture - https://www.vulture.com/2019/11/alex-kapp-on-the-preppy-killer-and-robert-chambers.html

AETV - https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/robert-chambers-now-preppy-killer

Good Housekeeping - https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/a29712185/robert-chambers-preppy-murder-central-park/

Inside Edition - https://www.insideedition.com/the-preppy-killer-and-the-tabloid-sensation-still-defining-1980s-new-york-today-56546

Hollywood Reporter - https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/amc-sundancetv-documentary-examines-preppy-murder-metoo-lens-1254573/

People Magazine - https://people.com/crime/preppy-murder-robert-chambers-jennifer-levin-amc-series/

Ranker - https://www.ranker.com/list/robert-chambers-facts/cat-mcauliffe

History.com - https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/preppy-murder-stuns-new-york

The New York Times - https://archive.nytimes.com/cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/23/chronology-revisiting-the-preppy-killer-case/

UPI.com - https://www.upi.com/Archives/1988/05/17/Victims-family-shocked-by-Chambers-video/2202579844800/

ThePeopleHistory.com - https://www.thepeoplehistory.com/1986.html

Oxygen.com - https://www.womenshealthmag.com/life/a29786012/robert-chambers-jennifer-levin-preppy-murder-case/
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176. Jennifer Levin - Looks That Killed

On this episode of MWMH, we discuss the murder of Irene Garza and the blasphemous search for her killer. 
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Sources:

48 Hours - https://www.amazon.com/48-Hours-Season-30/dp/B077921R34

Texas Monthly - https://www.texasmonthly.com/true-crime/unholy-act/

CNN.com - https://www.cnn.com/2013/05/31/justice/garza-cold-case-timeline/

McAllen Chamber of Commerce - https://mcallenchamber.com/news/a-look-into-our-past-tells-us-of-our-future/

CBSNews.com - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/irene-garza-murder-former-priest-john-feit-arrested-in-beauty-queens-1960-murder/, https://www.cbsnews.com/news/irene-garza-murder-john-feit-former-priest-dies/

The Sydney Morning Herald - https://www.smh.com.au/world/break-in-cold-case-police-arrest-former-beauty-queens-priest-in-her-1960-killing-20160211-gmrhii.html

Courthouse News Service - https://www.courthousenews.com/former-priest-convicted-of-1960-murder-dies-in-prison/

My San Antonio - https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Ex-priest-coming-back-to-Texas-to-sta
nd-trial-in-6853963.php

The Washington Post - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/12/08/in-1960-she-went-to-confession-and-vanished-now-we-know-the-priest-murdered-her/

My NYC Geneology - https://mcnygenealogy.com/book/kodak/kodaslide-viewer.pdf

BishopAccountability.org - https://www.bishop-accountability.org/

Phoenix New Times-
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/altar-ego-priest-john-feit-irene-garza-beauty-queen-6430571?storyPage=3
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175. Irene Garza - The Church Murder Cover Up

Dear Daisy, I Was Almost Abducted From My Hotel!

On this episode of MWMH, Payton tells Garrett the unbelievable case of George Smith and how he seemingly vanished while on a cruise.
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Case sources:
“Man Overboard: Inside the Honeymoon Cruise Murder” by Joan Lownds. 
Dateline NBC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7j5I_LQC4c
CBS News. https://www.ibolaw.com/images/Murder-at-Sea-CBS-News.pdf, https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-closes-probe-into-vanished-cruise-ship-honeymooner/
MSNBC. https://youtu.be/zoNy-VvybWg 
The New York Times- https://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/07/nyregion/grand-jury-reviews-report-of-rape-on-cruise-ship.html
Greenwich Time- https://www.greenwichtime.com/local/article/Family-outraged-over-FBI-dropping-probe-into-6003042.php
Local 10- https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/09/11/critical-clue-released-in-unsolved-davie-murder-from-last-christmas/
Justice for George Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/JusticeforGeorgeSmith?fref=ts&ref=br_tf
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174. George Smith - A Cruise Ship Mystery

On this episode of MWMH, we discuss the murder of Anita Knutson and the decades long investigation to catch her killer.
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TW*SUICIDE

Case Sources:

Nbcnews.com, “Eight Years After Brutal Murder, Sister Still Looking for Answers,” by Rachel Trost, April 17, 2015
 
Nbcnews.com, “Arrest made in 2007 murder of Anita Knutson in Minot, North Dakota,” by Veronica Fulton, March 16, 2022, updated March 18, 2022
 
KFYRTV, “Update: suspect charged in killing of Anita Knutson posts bond, as new details emerge in investigation,” by Grace Kraemer and Joe Skurzewski, March 17, 2022
 
Kxnews, kxnet.com, “Nichole Rice’s pretrial conference and arraignment,” by Kyara Brown, September 8, 2022, updated September 9, 2022
 
KEYZAM 660 News Radio, Keyzradio.com, “New Details Emerge About Nichole Rice, Suspect in 2007 Slaying of Minot State University Student Anita Knutson,” by cmstester, March 24, 2022
 
Thedailybeast.com, “’Belligerently Drunk’ Ex-Roommate Admitted to Murdering College Student, Cops Say,” by Pilar Melendez, March 17, 2022
 
Law &amp; Crime, “Woman Accused of Stabbing 18-Year-Old Roommate to Death in Their Apartment More Than 15 Years Ago Enters Plea,” by Alberto Luperon, September 9, 2022
 
The Washington Post, “A college student was stabbed to death 14 years ago. Police have charged her then-roommate with murder,” by Jaclyn Peiser, March 21, 2022
 
Findagrave.com, Anita May Knutson
 
Findagrave.com, Daniel Dean “Rico” Knutson
 
Popculturecrime.medium.com, “North Dakota Cold Case: Who Killed Anita Knutson?” by Pop Culture Crime, August 7, 2020
 
Lewiston Tribune, “Woman charged in 2007 death of 18-year-old roommate,” from Wire Service Reports, March 18, 2022
 
KFYR, “Update: suspect charged in killing of Anita Knutson posts bond, as new details emerge in investigation,” by Grace Kraemer and Joe Skurzewski, March 17, 2022
 
KFYR, “Defense calling for more DNA evidence in Anita Knutson death investigation,” by Joe Skurzewki, March 23, 2023
 
Park Rapids Enterprise, “Minot college student’s slaying in 2007 remains a mystery,” by news@parkrapidsenterprise.com, June 4, 2012
 
Heavy.com, “Nichole Rice, Anita Knutson Murder Suspect: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know,”
 
True Crime Daily, “North Dakota cold-case mystery: Who killed Anita Knutson?” no author provided, March 1, 2016
 
Minot Daily News, “Cold case solved,” by Jill Schramm, March 17, 2022
 
Minot Daily News, “Knutson murder suspect failed to appear in 2012 court,” by Shalon Baer Gee, March 22, 2022
 
Minot Daily News, “Trial set for accused Anita Knutson killer,” by Charles Crane, September 9, 2022
 
Minot Daily News, “Nichole Rice pretrial conference continued,” by Charles Crane, June 8, 2023
 
The Dakotan, mydakotan.com, “Cold Justice Targets Killer,” by Kim Fundingsland, October 12, 2022
 
The Dakotan, mydatokan.com, “Anita Knutson Murder

173. Anita Knutson - The Ongoing College Murder

On this episode of MWMH, Payton comes at you alone in a “Binged” like episode discussing the murders of the Hruby Family.
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Case Sources:
duncanbanner.com/news/hrubys-housekeeper-describes-discovering-family-after-shooting/article_80c20d0a-1450-11e5-abc7-cf781fb5735b.html

duncanbanner.com/news/article_ce10a100-5355-11e4-923b-dbcdb2643689.html

tulsaworld.com/son-broke-down-over-deaths-chief-says/article_0ea1fc7c-0795-5633-a242-67efb7a33098.html

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3127017/Self-professed-shopaholic-murdered-parents-17-year-old-sister-inheritance-weeps-court-housekeeper-describes-finding-three-bodies.html

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2820869/Facebook-turns-evidence-police-shopaholic-teenager-s-page-including-disliked-family-shot-dead-parents-sister-inheritence.html

news9.com/story/5e34cb64e0c96e774b34f04e/son-charged-with-3-counts-of-murder-in-duncan-triple-homicide

newson6.com/story/5e35a33e83eff40362be45c5/duncan-murder-victims-best-friend-speaks-out

guardianlv.com/2014/10/he-wanted-the-best-life-has-to-offer-and-killed-his-family-to-get-it/

oklahoman.com/story/news/columns/2016/03/10/triple-murder-defendant-pleads-guilty-gets-life-in-prison/60687297007/

https://web.archive.org/web/20160303094748/https://people.com/article/chilling-details-oklahoma-triple-murder

thewickedtruthblog.com/from-serial-shopper-to-serial-killer-the-execution-of-the-hruby-family-c6ed0a903068

jimfishertruecrime.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-alan-hruby-murder-case-in-cold.html

findagrave.com/memorial/156145489/alexander-joseph-hruby

findagrave.com/memorial/167892312/joy-hruby

twitter.com/alanjhruby

youtube.com/watch?v=E9khYlt6VQg&t=430s

Newspapers.com sources:

newspapers.com/image/910737941

newspapers.com/image/452101772
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172. Hruby Family - The Trust Fund Murderer

On this episode of Murder With My Husband, Payton and Garrett dive into the murder of Suzanne Collins and conviction of Sedley Alley.

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Case Sources:

the Tennessee State Courts, Arlingtoncemetery.net, Dailymail.co.uk, the New York Times, medium.com, KMOV4, murderpedia.org, commercialappeal.com, Military-history.fandom.com, google maps, Daytondailynews.com, Yahoo.com, Actionnews5.com, law.justia.com, the Tennessee Bar Association, and the innocenceproject.org
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171. Suzanne Collins - Innocent or Guilty?

On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss the murder of Mabel Greineder while she was walking her dog with her husband.

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Case Sources:
A Murder in Wellesley: The Inside Story of an Ivy-League Doctor's Double Life, His Slain Wife, and the Trial that Gripped the Nation (2017, ForeEdge), by Tom Farmer and Marty Foley

Murder at Morses Pond (2010, Pinnacle), by Linda Rosencrance

Ancestry.com

vanceholmes.com/court/trial_greineder.html

metrowestdailynews.com/story/news/2010/09/21/spitz-wellesley-s-dirk-greineder/41218826007/
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170. Mabel Greineder - The Park Murder

On this episode, Payton and Garrett read stories written in by listeners.

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Dear Daisy - My Stalker is a Real Threat!

*this case involves suicide*
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On this episode of MWMH, Garrett and Payton discuss the disappearances of 3 gay men in the Indianapolis area back in the 1990’s and how one of them led to the discovery of a serial killer.

Case Sources:
Where the Bodies Are Buried (1998, St. Martin's), by Fannie Weinstein

murderpedia.org/male.B/b/baumeister-herbert.htm

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herb_Baumeister

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